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10 Clues That She is a Ladyboy or Katoey

October 18, 2007

Special thanks to Conan Stevens for providing the inspiration for this ladyboy article.

Have you heard the term katoey or ladyboy before? These creatures have been encountered by many first timers (and even some second and third timers) in Bangkok, Phuket and Pattaya, much to the chagrin of the unsuspecting mark. What is a katoey? It is quite simply a transsexual or transvestite and they are quite common in Thailand.

The thing is that many of the Thai ladyboys are actually quite beautiful and unless you know what to look for can be easy to miss, even if you are close up and personal with them. Of course copious amounts of alcohol doesn’t help matters, so here I’ve put together the top 10 ways to spot a ladyboy or katoey when you’re in Thailand. Avoid reading this list at your own peril.

1. Look at your new friends hands and feet. Thai girls typically are small and their hands and feet are very small and petite to match. If the girl has lumberjack hands or size 12 heels on there is a distinct possibility she is a he.

2. Look for an Adams apple. Girls don’t have them, not ever.

3. Too much makeup. Thai girls generally wear very little if any makeup. If the girl has a thick layer of foundation on and enough makeup for a Vegas dancer then she is probably a ladyboy.

4. Tall. Thai girls are generally short, 5′ 4″ or less. If the girl is near to 6′ tall then either she is a model or a katoey. If she’s flirting with you (a foreign tourist), then the odds are she is NOT a model (unless you look like Brad Pitt), you are very likely being targeted by a ladyboy.

5. She is more beautiful than you can believe. If the girl is tall and beautiful and is NOT a model then it’s a good bet she is a ladyboy. Katoeys work very hard to make themselves as beautiful as possible, even going to the length of having surgery done. Eyes, lips, breasts, and even the cut and tuck, though from all accounts most katoeys are cross dressers without the final surgery.

6. If she has facial hair she is a katoey. Don’t laugh, I’ve actually seen guys dancing with girls that have a 5 o’clock shadow. Thai girls are for the most part hairless, even on their arms and legs and certainly on their faces.

7. Thai girls are very feminine, quite likely some of the most feminine women on the planet. If your girl is muscular or has a hard athletic body there is a chance that she is a katoey. This can be sometimes confusing because Cambodian girls are typically more muscular than Thai’s, but they are also generally very short and dark skinned.

8. If the girl has a penis (not TOO hard to figure out is it) then she is a ladyboy. Many katoeys will go for a grope of your crotch shortly after meeting you and this is the perfect chance for you to return the favor. Sometimes it isn’t as easy to tell if there is a bulge there or not as some ladyboys will go as far as to tuck or even tape their privates up underneath their crotch.

9. If she won’t undress in front of you or wants to have sex in the dark all the time she may be a katoey. Thai girls are shy in public, but can be quite forward in private and most have very little shyness when it comes to sex. I’ve heard stories of guys who had no idea they were with a ladyboy until the next morning which is actually believable if the girl wants to suck you off all night or do it from behind or if you’re that drunk. If there is a question in your mind do a quick grope or throw some surprise light on the subject, it may be YOU who ends up with the bigger surprise.

10. Take a look at her friends. Ladyboys tend to run and hunt in packs like wolves. If her group of friends are obvious katoeys themselves then your little lady may be one as well.

I’m sure this list isn’t comprehensive and there are other ways to tell if your prospective hookup is a katoey or ladyboy. Please leave a comment if you have other ways that you use to figure out if she is really a he or if you have some interesting or fun stories about the katoeys and ladyboys of Thailand.

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10 Responses to “10 Clues That She is a Ladyboy or Katoey”

  1. Good Thai Girls vs Bad Thai Girls - How Can I Tell if She’s a Bargirl? | Thailand Musings on January 5th, 2008 10:05 pm

    [...] pleasant profession, however I really don’t want to marry a former sex-worker. I enjoyed your tips about ladyboy detection, that was a real scream. Do you have any bar-girl detection techniques to [...]

  2. Clubbing in Bangkok | Thailand Musings on February 25th, 2008 7:37 pm

    [...] sure they are not ladyboys as there will certainly be a couple of tables of katoeys in the club (check the size of their hands [...]

  3. beth @ etransgender on March 28th, 2008 12:22 pm

    OMG, this post is wrong on so many levels, I don’t know where to start. You’ve pigeon-holed, and stereotyped women into such a silly caricature you can’t help but laugh.

    Some women have facial hair, some are 6 feet tall, and some have pronounced adams apples.

    Likewise, some men don’t have facial hair, aren’t 6 feet tall, and have barely noticeable adam’s apples.

    Geez.

  4. Steve on March 28th, 2008 5:23 pm

    Well, the post was partly written with tongue firmly in cheek. These are not stereotypes, but rather generalizations. They are also not generalizations about women, the post is about Thailand’s ladyboys.

    I can assure you that you will not find very many (<1%) Thai women taller than 6 feet. They also do not have adam’s apples and Thai people (males and females) have very little body hair typically. My wife does not and has never had to shave her legs because the hair is so thin and fine. Without a very close inspection you wouldn’t even know that she has hair on her legs. And Thai women certainly do not have facial hair.

    Perhaps you should visit Thailand sometime and you’ll find that the ladyboys there can be quite beautiful, both externally and internally. In addition, Thai culture is very accepting of transgender people which is why many foreign men unintentionally end up with ladyboys in Thailand. They are fooled because many of the ladyboys in Thailand are physically attractive and quite feminine. Of course some men are allowing themselves to be fooled, but that’s another story entirely.

  5. William taylor on May 30th, 2008 11:11 am

    Thank you, a refreshing hint of Thai culture and how to BE with the girls.

  6. Siamgoody on May 30th, 2008 12:15 pm

    If you are a white skinned farang, and being swooned by a 6 foot ‘lady’ it is a lady boy who is interested in you. If you fall for a bar girl each night and that bar girl has been around with umpteen guys since that evening, does it really matter whether you sleep with a lady or a ladyboy? When you have had 3 tall glasses of alcohol, you could sleep with an aligator and get a great job down below.

  7. angela on June 2nd, 2008 9:15 am

    I m 5 ft 2 oriental girl. I m very attrative with very large boobs. I am also quite athletic. In your comments you said lady boy could be mascular. I am born a girl but it annoys me so much that some paranoid english twats would call me a lady boy because it is a stereotype. If you look sightly different than the average oriental girls you must be a lady boy. One of these days Im going to beat the shit out of anybody who call me “that” again. Transexual comes in all races not just Thais, Chinese and other oriental races. Some of these twats who call me lady boy last week were with their girlfiends who look like men and are also fat and minging.

    All Im sayin is your comment is in someways stereotyped thai/oriental and therefore some of us REAL WOMEN have been mistaken and it is very very annoying and people need to stop being so ignorant and judgemental. Perhaps I should be born with dark skin, jet black hair, flat chested and have flat nose than maybe people are not gonna think I m a ladyboy.

    Seriously this thing about looking out for ladyboy need to stop cos its nasty and make iditots more paranoid!!!

  8. Steve on June 7th, 2008 10:27 am

    @ Siamgoody - Not sure I would want to let an alligator near my privates (all those teeth..yikes!), but I get your point :)

    @ Angela - Sorry that this has offended you, but as I said earlier it was written partly tongue in cheek. And idiots will be idiots no matter what they are told. Seriously though when I say ladyboys look muscular I mean manly type muscular and unless you are an elite level athlete there is no way you would have the type of physique a man has. Additionally, I can’t imagine I would ever mistake a 5′ 2″ girl as a ladyboy…it’s quite rare to find any man that short. In no way would I say that if you are slightly different than the norm should you be thought of as a ladyboy…many ladyboys are actually quite beautiful and those that are noticeable usually look quite a bit different from the norm. I guess the takeaway is to simply ignore the idiots and the farang with the fat minging gf’s since you’ll likely never see them again anyway and how much weight can you really put on their opinions. YOU know the truth and the thoughts and opinions of strangers are typically not worth wasting your energy.

  9. Mark on August 21st, 2008 9:52 am

    Your Ladyboy article is quite interesting, but the last 10 years visiting Thailand, i would love to share some of my experiences.
    Hands and Feet are probably the best giveaway, but i have seen Ladyboys with small hands and feet and if wearing heels, very difficult to establish wide masculine feet.
    If they can do the gender op for 50000 baht, shaving the adams apple is a breeze.
    Most Farangs are used to seeing makeup on western girls, so with a couple of ales in em and bar lighting, they probably wouldnt pick up on it.
    Ive seen many Stunning Ladyboys Sub 5ft 5 so dont think the short sexy girl is a given, but more often, as you say there usually tallish.
    I will agree that there more beautiful than you can belive, and in my opinon that really should be the first warning if your not into ladyboys. Ive never seen the Facial Hair or Five’O Clock shaddow, but if your out till 5 O clock youre probably not going to be to fussy anyway.
    Ive noticed that if a ladyboy wants to fool the farang they usually stay pretty quiet as in not talk to much, and are carful how they laugh.
    Basically if your new in town, had a few drinks and shes a post op, you’ve got little chance of discovering that you’ve been had by a layboy.
    Oh and Thai girls usually can tell no Prob ham.

  10. Steve on August 21st, 2008 10:48 am

    Hi Mark,
    Thanks for the comments and I think you’re spot on. In the case of the more attractive ladyboy’s, if they don’t want you to know there is a good chance you won’t find out. I’ve even heard stories (unsubstantiated) of guys that have spent a night with one without finding out until the next morning or even only after weeks of seeing them,

    And yes, for some reason Thai girls can spot them straight away. My wife always likes to have fun at my expense with that little trick.

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