I first went to Thailand in 1997 and immediately fell in love with the country. Thailand at that time to me was mysterious and exotic, full of potentials and pitfalls.
Fast forward to 2010 and here I am after 13 years and many trips to the LOS sharing, with the help of my 
Good Thai Girls vs Bad Thai Girls – How Can I Tell if She’s a Bargirl?
To the best of my knowledge, my Thai girlfriend is employed in the finance/accounting area of a small 30-employee Bangkok business. I really have no reason to doubt her, and I naturally take her at her word. It has of course crossed my mind that bar-girls looking for a foreign marriage via an internet profile probably do not disclose their true occupational experience! I will not disrespect the world’s oldest and most pleasant profession, however I really don’t want to marry a former sex-worker. I enjoyed your tips about ladyboy detection, that was a real scream. Do you have any bar-girl detection techniques to share?
Answer: These are not entirely mine, I’ve gotten inspiration for some of them by reading and hearing other experiences. And by no means are these 100% spot on, just like everywhere in the world there are exceptions to rules, but they are good indicators, especially if your Thai girlfriend meets more than 2.
Keep in mind too that for many of the younger Thai urban girls these rules do not necessarily apply. Things are a bit different in Bangkok than they are out in rural Thailand or even in other Thai cities. The younger generation of Thai’s are moving away from traditional Thai values rapidly. What was true 5 or 10 years ago doesn’t necessarily apply any longer, especially when considering the university educated middle class or hi-so Thai’s.
Take these warnings as what they are, just warnings to keep your eyes open. Your Thai girl may be a good girl or she may be a bad girl, it’s often hard to tell these days as the lines have become a bit blurred.
- She is very familiar with one of the pay-for-play areas in Thailand. If she is able to give you an in depth tour of Patpong, Nana Plaza or Pattaya, especially the tourist bar scene then she most likely was or is a bargirl.
- She wears a lot of makeup. In Thailand the good girls don’t wear makeup very much. This too is changing, but even those that do wear make up wear very little, mostly just some cover-up to make them look whiter and MAYBE some blush. Heavy eyeliner or eyeshadow is definitely in the realm of bargirls. If your Thai girl is in the fashion industry this may differ, but in general Thai girls don’t wear much makeup.
- She isn’t shy about kissing, holding hands or touching in public. Good Thai girls do not kiss or touch in public. Again, this is slowly changing in Bangkok and if you’ve been together awhile she will be less reluctant, but the fact is that Thai’s do not generally show affection in public. If your Thai girlfriend regularly pats your ass in public she may have been a bargirl.
- She has had a baby, but the baby is not with her. A large percentage of girls that work in the pay-for-play industry have had children that they’ve left with their mothers, aunts or other relatives – so they can work unencumbered. This is generally more true for younger Thai girls. Older girls may have kids at home with mom because they were previously married and the Thai guy left them high and dry. This is a fairly common occurrence and one reason Thai women are starting to look to guys from the west for marriage. Western males are much more likely to stay in a monogamous relationship than Thai guys. Still, Thai women love their kids as much as anyone so if there are kids and they are not with the mom there is a reason and that reason might be because the mom is a bargirl.
- Your girl isn’t a virgin. This is a pretty good clue actually. In Thai society – a girl that is not a virgin gets no dowry and probably gets no decent husband either. A girl that loses her virginity had better marry the guy. If she does not – then she is spoiled goods and the Thai guys won’t marry her. They will almost NEVER marry a girl that has been married and has a child. They have a severe loss of face for this – to be raising someone else’s child. There are exceptions – but, I’d say this is a BIG CLUE.
- If all she seems to care about is money, especially your money, then she very well might be a bargirl. Good Thai girls will not talk about money, it’s not something they are typically obsessed with. The girls that are obsessed by it will do whatever they can to get more. How does your typical Thai with no university education or skills do to get more money? Even if they are not outright bargirls there are girls who will go out with guys to dinner or a movie, or maybe right back to their rooms simply to get an extra 1000 baht for a new cellphone or clothes or whatever it is she feels that she needs. As I’ve said before, a girl can live in Bangkok quite easily on 10,000 baht a month and many do. Those who aren’t happy living that lifestyle will do whatever they have to to get more money and often that includes the bargirl life.
- If she has friends in Pattaya, Patpong or Nana Plaza and she’s keeping in close contact with them – she is or was or may turn out to be a bargirl if the relationship with you doesn’t work.
- If she has tattoos then she may not necessarily be a bargirl, but she worked in the pay for play industry in some fashion. Maybe she was a masseuse or fishbowl girl, served drinks in a bar or even worked as a freelancer, but she was connected in some way with bargirls if she has a tattoo.
- If she has piercings beside her earrings – she was or is a bargirl. If she has her tongue pierced she was or is 100% without fail, a bargirl. If her nose or navel is pierced – not 100%, but north of 90% I’d say.
- If she goes to another place to talk on the cellphone then she is hiding something. You should be wondering what she has to hide from you. Most likely if she’s hiding something it is another man. Many of the bargirls in Thailand are married to a Thai guy or have many foreign boyfriends calling her. They get money from the boyfriends and they send their money to the Thai guys. It’s what they do for love!
- If her English is pretty good. Most Thai’s have bad English skills, even those who work in tourist areas or hotels. If your Thai girlfriend understands anything that has to do with money or a bar or restaurant situation she may be or was a bargirl. This is especially true if she makes jokes to you about “short time, love you long time, no money no honey…”. These are typical bar jokes and if she knows them she was very likely a bargirl in the past or present.
- She no longer takes care of you once you’re in a relationship with you. Bargirls will try very hard to hook you, but once you’re on the hook all she wants to do is watch TV, eat and gossip with her friends. She won’t want to cook, but will send out for food everyday. You would expect that she would view you as a godsend since you are making 5-10 times as much money as any Thai guy would and supporting her lavishly from a Thai standpoint. Instead she tries to minimize your impact on their lives. She will ask for more things all the time, going out to eat, better cell phone, bigger TV, cars, vacations, anything that others have that they want. They will never be satisfied with what they have and they will not give much back in the relationship. They are used to the bargirl lifestyle which is to sleep, eat, watch TV and make sure you can buy what everyone else have and then show off what you have.
- You’re married and she has a separate bank account. A bargirl will use this account for two purposes. First to transfer money out to a Thai boyfriend/husband and second to receive money from past customers. Some guys will continue to send money to bargirls for a very long time and of course the girls will continue to accept it as long as it’s being sent.
- If she is not reachable by phone sometimes – she is up to something. She may not be a bargirl, but something is seriously wrong with that picture. A cell phone is a Thai girls link to the world and everyone she knows and they can and will answer it even when riding 50 mph on the back of a motorcycle. If your Thai girlfriends frequently doesn’t answer her phone when you call there’s something going on she doesn’t want you to know about.
As I said, these aren’t hard and fast rules, but are more like warning signs. Keep your eyes open and use your common sense.
If you’re reading this and you’ve had some experience with Thai bargirls then maybe you can add some more to what I’ve written. Are there other warning signs I’ve missed? Leave a comment and let us know.
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OMG!!! Who have you been hanging out with that gave you this information? I’d hate to think that your well-intended advice may hurt peoples’ relationships unnecessarily. You may as well have said “if she’s dating a farang, then she’s a bargirl.” Can I set the record straight please?
If she has a piercing other than her ears: She may have been or may be a rebellious teenager. I know 2 girls with tongue piercings. One of them (she’s 16 and still in school)has wealthy parents and has never slept with a guy for money. The other has never slept with a guy period!
If she has tattoos: Basically the same as piercings, except that tattoos are even more normal and acceptable than unusually located piercings. Not to say that they aren’t a warning sign, but that’s about all they are.
She isn’t a virgin: Who is? You’ve seriously got to be kidding about this one. But if she doesn’t know the exact number of guys she’s been with the first time you ask her…
She has a kid who isn’t living with her: This is practically the norm. A huge portion of the population has been raised by their grandparents. More likely she either had the child when she was still very young and couldn’t handle parenthood on her own, or she’s moved to the city for a factory job to send her parents money to care for her children. I know countless women in this situation, although most of them are married and living with their Thai husbands.
If her English is good: Many people speak English well. If she speaks it fluently, confidently, and asserts herself well in English, but has poor grammar and cannot write it very well, however, then she’s probably a bargirl.
She wears too much makeup: What??? Most Thai women wear too much makeup. I know one girl who spends hours applying makeup. Not only is she not a bargirl, but she could have you beaten and then arrested for asking her “how much for long time?” before riding off in her Mercedes Benz. Not that she would – she’s a very nice girl – but she could. Heavy eyeliner is perfectly normal too. Heavy eyeshadow, however, I’m not so sure about.
She isn’t shy about public affection: Holding hands, especially in Bangkok, has become extremely common even for Thai couples. But not kissing.
The best way to tell whether your girl is a bargirl or not, if it isn’t completely obvious, would probably be to hire a private investigator, preferably one who’s a eunuch. Hope I could help.
Jon,
Thanks very much for your addition to my post. You’ve given some very good examples of when the warning signs may not apply, but I still stand by the warning signs as I’ve written them and I think your comments bear me out as well. You really need to take these warnings together with my first two paragraphs:
“Keep in mind too that for many of the younger Thai urban girls these rules do not necessarily apply. Things are a bit different in Bangkok than they are out in rural Thailand or even in other Thai cities. The younger generation of Thai’s are moving away from traditional Thai values rapidly. What was true 5 or 10 years ago doesn’t necessarily apply any longer, especially when considering the university educated middle class or hi-so Thai’s.
Take these warnings as what they are, just warnings to keep your eyes open. Your Thai girl may be a good girl or she may be a bad girl, it’s often hard to tell these days as the lines have become a bit blurred.”
I know that things are changing rapidly in Thailand and especially in Bangkok, however I think that for any girl that was raised in the provinces or is over the age of say 27-ish these warnings signs are very applicable. And I know that they don’t apply to younger urban Thai’s (I hope no farangs are trying to pick up that 16 year old) or to upper class Hi-So Thai’s (who are primarily Chinese-Thai anyway).
Maybe you’re right and the only way to be completely sure is to hire a private investigator (who is a eunuch – I love that!). Of course for me if there is so much doubt that I need to hire a private investigator I think I would just move on since relationships are all about trust and that type of thing shows no trust whatsoever.
Thanks again for the thought provoking comment. I could probably write another half dozen posts just from your one comment. Kudos!
How can you speak of good vs bad girl??? How come a prostitute would be a bad girl? Aren’t you aware that many of them did not choose their life? That many of them were lured into that life? That many of them are beaten and threatened? And you still think they are bad girls? Even though they did not choose to do what they are doing? And I would go further than that: why a prostitute would be a bad girl at all? Don’t many guys sleep with as many women as they can? Wouldn’t men do the job too if, first, women were good consumers of prostitution and, second, men would have less means than women to make money? Do you want a girlfriend or wife just as something of the model you’re looking for or are you looking for a sharing relationship with another person? I guess you’re of the former type, right?
In response to Val
I am a normal healthy man, with a wonderful appetite for sex, with someone I care for. Of course the basic instinct in a man is as much sex as possible, it is our job to breed. But, really “many guys sleep with as many women as they can?” I don’t, and many of my male friends are less “experienced” than their women partners. Maybe you aren’t meeting “real men”. Oh, and for the record, I couldn’t be a prostitute unless my life did depend on it, which is true for some of these women. One last thing, the men operating in the sex industry are Katoey (lady boys) but that is a whole new species.
I found your site searching for disc golf in thailand and found this article. go figure!
Anyway, just wanted to say hilarious! I love the “She no longer takes care of you once you’re in a relationship with you.” line…. Been there and hate that.
Apart from the tattoos (new generation all have tattoos), almost all is true.
The virgin bit istn’t though, as most Thai girls lose their virginity at 15 same as in the UK and then end up pregnant and no husband.The kid goes to mum and the girl escapes to bangkok annd has to send money to mum.
Although bar girls make a lot of money, most of them take alcohol or methamphetamine to be able to work, which ends with them addicted and spending most of the money on alcohol/drugs.
Even if they managed to save money, most of them couldn/t send more than 3000 baht or so a month home, as if they sent more their mum would know they are not in a normal job, and tell them to come back to the far.
There are exceptions (a lot) where mum knows what daughter is doing and phones all the time to ask for more and more money.
I have worked in the soi nana area for many years and had to have close contact with the bar Girls and whores, as i worked in a tattoo studio, where we gave 20 percent to ladies bringing their “Boyfriend” for a tattoo. I also translated their emails to their boyfriends into english for them (mostly asking for money – “my dad’s buffalo has died he needs a new one”).
I have had also “gig” who were working girls..i never paid them but had to wait for them to finish work first..they would go with the farang or their farang boyfriend and once got some money they would sneak back to me and buy me some beer.
I have been tricked and cheated on in the past by Thai girls, and i must say that from my observances i notice that even office girls will have secret boyfriends, they do this to make ends meet.My last girlfriend worked in a factory and had up to 25 hours a month overtime…when i asked to see her overtime slip it said 0 hours! In the end i found out that she had 7 other men which she would meet and go to a motel for sex.
She used me for the free rent and food and sex in the evenings, and the others for free nights out and sex.
This way she didnt have to spend a penny of her wages.
Most women in Thailand dont have much chance of a real marriage with a dowry as they were ruined at 15 most of them.
This leaves them with the option of leaving kids with mum and going to work.
I have many Thai men friends and dont know one of them who doesn’t have many “Gigs” (gf’s on the side). This is also a reason why Thai girls are unfaithful – they are used to being cheated on.
Also if you consider the fact that there are 4 women to every man in Thailand it has to be so that 2 or 3 of each are the mistress of another woman’s wife! if not they wouldnt be able to survive.
What is strange though, is the fact that you would think that Thai women would be desperate for a man, which they are not..they have plenty of men flirting every day..which proves the unfaithfulness of Thai men, they can manage to keep a 4-1 ration of women to men fulfilled.
Thai women i have found are not worth loving, they will let you down one day.All they are worth is to use and abuse as Thai men do.As i was still trying to be a “good man” the Thai girls just walked all over me.Since i started trying the bad boy technique (dont give em money, refuse their wishes, let em pay), i have had lots more success with thai women. Thai girls love problems, so all you have to do is make things a problem and they love it.
I have girls fone me after being with 3 farang and come and spend the money with me.
One of these (som) has a Farang Boyfriend from Australia who i sometimes have to drive her there to see him. he loves her and gives her what she wishes (mobile fone, money, etc), but she just laughs about him when she is with me and when we have no money she go0es to get some off him then comes back to me.
The same girl once came for 2 nights at my place and then asked me for taxi money to get home.I refused saying that she came on her own will so she can pay her own way home…she didn’t have a penny in her pocket, and she cried asking how she would get home.
I threw 5 baht at her and said “fone your mum and ask her if shell pay the taxi when you arrive there”.
She did and left the condo angry at me.
The next evening she foned and asked to come to me. i said “what you not angry with me?” she said, no i miss you.
If i had have given her the taxi money she would have put me in the same slot as the other stupid farang and walked all over me..i bet if i would have given her 200 baht she would have replied “what! thats all or what? and what about food money?”‘
This proves that they prefer to love a problem than an easy ride..
Nature is the same everywhere..the soft get eaten, the tough survive.
Love in Thailand is a Jungle with wild inhabitants….dont be toon tame or you shall get eaten.
Thai people do not have much in their minds except for money and selfish wants, so dont expect to be discovering the most subtle relationship of your life.
If you want a freebie all you have to do is hang around sukhumvit soy 3-7 about 4 o clock in the morning and for sure there will be someone ask to go with you. All you say is that you dont have money for them and they still come (why? because; they fought with their room-mate and dont want to go home, because the landlord locked the door of their room for not paying the rent, because their boyfriend is high and wants to kill her, no money to get home….etc etc).
Thai whores blow all their money as they get it..no matter how much, so they are always falling back into desperate situations (they pawn their mobile fones about 3 times a month).
They cant keep their own bank together so why should you think that they wont ruin your savings as well as their own money…
Financially, being with a Thai is like falling down the black hole of calcutta.
They are loike a bottomless barrel – no matter how much you throw in there it never gets full.
It doesnt matter how much money you have it will never be enough.
I once had a friend who sold his land for 10 million baht. he then lived in a ceement hut with no chairs no furniture. I thought he would build new house make a shop etc with the money he made.No…he bought some beac hside land and started constructing bungalows…halfway through the project he ran out of money..leaving a missing ten million baht to finish.
He has no more land to sell and the bungalows are now rotting.
He now still lives in that cement hut with no chairs as poor as he was before, (he never even bought a plastic chair or a tv with all those 10 million baht), and has a dead piece of land with rotting bungalows – his investment has failed.
This is typical Thai – dont let a thai drag your pocket into the black hole of calcutta.
women and men are the same.
Unfaithful, selfish, money-mad, crazy about expensive stuff (nokia, bmw, louis vuitton) and also dangerous (thai news every day has endless tales of wives/husbands murdering each other because of “Gig” [secret lover] )
Best thing to do in Thailand? keep company with expats, and try never to let a Thai know where you live (never invite him/her in your house as that will end in him coming back to ask you for things all the time).
Thais like to ask personal questions…dont answer as you will notice they will lie to you if you ask THEM the same type of questions.(where is your hometown, what is your real name etc).
I have never understood why Thais ask questions they won’t like to answer themselves.
But thats what they are like.
As to the gentleman who wrote in with his suspiscions and questions about his GF.
Even if she is a real office worker..if yopu aren’t living with her then for sure she is meeting other men and probably sleeping with the odd thai man.
Thai girls dont like farang really (they like our money), but they don;t trust Thai men…they like Thai men (their “thing ” might be smaller but it is reputed to be very hard..whereas we farang are reputed to have softer erections).
So what they do is to use a farang for the money, and have a secret Thai man for satisfaction and company (how can a thai girl have intimacy and fun with you if you cant even communicate fluently in the same language???what fun is that??? of course they are bored when a farang makes them go eat in pizza hut and sit by their side with all their other farang mates in the tourist bar (they are bored off their …) dont’ you think that they would rather be having fun doing all the things that thai people do to have fun?? (go play cards with other women, go to a puea cheewit music bar&restaurant and sing thai songs karaoke (dont think you can take them to do this..as one thing is to arrrive there with a handsome thai guy who can sing well and another is to arraive with a beady pig-eyed frizzy blonde haired farang so all the others can stare at you whilst they laugh at her for having a muppet for a boyfriend. Plus imagine how embarassing it would be if you sing! lets try to make the situation understandable from the Thai perspective – reverse the situation.
Imagine if you took a hilltribe woman to a dinner party where all your aqcuaintances were and she was dressed in her traditional clothes and ate with her hands. Embarrassed?
Well maybe you dont think we are embarrassing, but to thais we are.
Thais are a xenophobic society. I have travelled 26 countries and lived invarious.As a result i have become accustomed to the faces of other races and have no xenophobia when it comes to sitting next to a chinaman, negro or caucasian on the bus.
But i do remember as i was a kid in my village seeeing a chinese woman on a bus and remaining standing because i didn’t want the embarrassment of sitting next to her….this is the basic Thai mentality.
When i sit on a bus in BKK , sometimes the bus is full and people are standing but my bemch still is empty in the place next to me.
It is like a game i play when i get on the bus; i watch the faces of the Thais who getb on, look for a seat, see my empty place, and then step back in shock/embarrassment/disgust when they see a farang sitting there. Most choose to stand.
I must add that i wear clean clothes dress smart and dont have any visible marks that may cause people to be repelled. If it is a woman it is more understandable..she is worried that others will think she is with me (and therefore a “rented wife/whore”).
You must realize that Thai society will immediately assume that the woman with a farang is a whore or bar gorl.
So who would like to go to the korean barbeque with a farang so everybody thinks you are a whore?
No one of course…except a whore.
a bit generic, but alot of those things do seem to be basically true.. the comment about most thai english is bad and if she knows english she learned it in a bar is very insulting though, there are english schools, english programmes, etc..
@ Sam – WOW! That is a great comment and so much great information. Thanks for taking the time to share with us your experiences. I’d love to hear more as I’m sure in 20 years of working near Nana you’ve got hundreds if not thousands of stories. Contact me if you’re interested in sharing some of your other stories here.
@ Chanida – Yes, it’s true that there are many English schools and programmes in Thailand, however I think that many (most?) of the people who take classes there do not have the necessary discipline to ever achieve a level of fluency in English. Part of this is simply because languages are very difficult for most people and part is because English is so different from Thai and I am also sure part is because the Thai’s have got to learn English from Americans, Brits, Aussies and any number of other native speakers. The accents and colloquialisms of each are so different as to make it impossible to get a solid grasp on the language (Golf agrees very much with this – in fact she finds it very difficult to understand English from countries other than America).
Use Thailand for the fun and sun. The rest is a waste of time and they are the most racist people on Earth. Corrupt and like small children. Its great for good sex and to buy pirate DVD’s. But there are nicer places to visit . Filipinas are the ones to marry. Thai women will treat you like shit on their shoes.
Maybe after all those years in Thailand you have lost the plot Sam.Obviously you have not been working or living in an area where most of your Thai “friends” are from the more elevated social classes.You hang with street people struggling for a life, so your standards are down with theirs.These are people like yu in every society, you chose that life and that is where western low lifes go. They go to bars and pimps and get in with poor struggling Thais desperate to survive, then you have the audacity to call them scum.You are the scum buddy.
I have friends married to beautiful, educated Thai women who dont have Tatts, funny bits of metal in their tongues or fingers constantly in hubbys wallet.
Too bad you will never meet or understand those type of people.
Message to the Agency.Thiais are not the most racsist people on earth, people like you are.Thailand is an insular society.They have every right to be having never been defeated in a war by any other Asian country, they have a proud tradition.
There is no “most racist people” on earth, only individuals, and gangs like Nazi’s, Zionists, Wahabbis and fundamentalist christians.
If you marry poorly, that is beacuse you wanted a little asian wifey, to clean shit of your shoes.I suggest meeting some one and falling in love, then maybe you will have less of a problem.
Get a copy of Speakeasy-Thai it will give you some correct insight into Thai life and relationships as well as good starter phrases. http://www.speakeasy-thai.com
ATTENTION FELLOW FARANGS!!!.. I am in desparate need of a small favor from all of you who can help me with some research that is growing in importance to me more & more each day… I met my Thai GF last march on a reputable website & I am supposed to fly out to see her for the first time this November… Recently I have been experiencing my share of mounting suspisions so as you can probably see, the clocks ticking!!..haha..
If anybody out there knows of ANY singles websites that you’ve been to in hopes of meeting Thai Girls, I would greatly appreciate your sending these sites to me.. My Thai GF is what I would classify as “Posh” so she won’t be interested in joining any sites that are overly smutty..{e.g. Friend Finder, etc..}
Recently, my thai gf just out of the blue decided to delete her profile where we initially met so I did too… At first, I thought it to be a sweet gesture as if to tell me that her search was over but at the same time I my instincts began to tell me that I’d better do a follow up & make damn sure that she’s not trying to get me comfortable enough so she could start a new base camp to search for men elsewhere so I wouldn’t catch her.. There’s something we all must remember about meeting women online, especially Thai Women, & that is that Women living over seas definately know that they have the ability & freedom to conduct a sick minded “process of elimination” & have any amount of men come to meet them at different times & still convince each one that they are the one & only… With THAT scary thought in your minds you must also remember that MOST Thai women see nothing wrong with “upgrading” unless they catch you doing it to them!.. Now I don’t know about any of you guys out there but I personally work too damn hard for my money to go spending a good sum of it going to all the troubles & headaches of foreign travel to visit my “true love” only to find out a few months later after I have returned home with all these grand plans of marriage & happy ever after crap to recieve an email telling me, “sorry my love, but I think I’m going to pick Bachoelor #5″!!!… You all should keep this possibility in mind fellas because I am certain that they sure as hell are!!..haha..
Anyways, I would greatly appreciate ANY site suggestions that you have whether it be “singles sites” or your average online personals type sites I am ready to research them all if that’s what it takes because whether my Thai gf is on the level or runnin’ with the devil, it makes me no difference.. I just don’t want to have to fly half way across the world to find out what I could have caught early by just spending a few evenings & a couple pots of coffee playin’ with the laptop!..
Thanx for reading this & 1000 Thanx to ANYONE who can send me sites!!
I like what Simon said!
There’re bad girls in every country not just in Thailand. Some countries are even worse!
To The Agency …
From what I read your comment, I can tell what kind of person you are. No wonder why thai women would treat you like shit!
I have had an experience with bar girls they have many men on the go with their telephone going off all the time. They all ways want the person they are with to have a shower so that they can snoop around your hotel room for money or anything else. Many have Thai boyfriends or husbands who they support. Money is all that they wan’t and the girl i was with her eyes lighted up with happiness every time she saw money. You cannot trust bar girls and you here stories that western men often marry them or send them money. I no that many of them do it to make more money and some are quite educated but i don’t like the way they try and rip people off. You can live on not much money and be a decent person. Many of them are pure evil in how they try and extort money.
I spoke to one bar girl and she told me that one of her clients paid for her to travel with him on his holiday. I often never paid her and she would try and find me on her scooter which was a bit annoying. The bottom line is dont spend to much money on them and hide your money away from them. They like it if you make problems for them. When you bar fine them make a deal with them what you want to do. You are the boss and they should do what you wan’t to do. Thai women love a man who will be firm with them. Thai men in my oppinion do what ever they say and are generally quite scared of their women.
@ Sam – Very interesting! Please write more.
@ Simon – You said “Thailand is an insular society.They have every right to be having never been defeated in a war by any other Asian country, they have a proud tradition.” Hmmm, “educated” Thais’ told you this, did they? Sadly, the “education” they received omits a number of inconvenient truths, such as Japan’s brief invasion of Thailand in WW2, and the destruction of the Ayutthaya kingdom by Burma.
Have to tell you simple.YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, BUT
FOR A beginer, not to reconize all for them self, is a leson the will or should learn quick, MOST All have somting they hide, most are very decitful. I Find it is exception to find the GOOD when you are hanging or asking them to be part of the night life , DA!!!!
I am in Malaysia and to cut it short I decided to go with one
or two massage (Tai girls) as I find it difficult as I am drawn by
there soft expressional eyes. One in particular I may be ready
to help escape the rat race, as she like many others was married
had a kid and her husband beat her. She has left her son with her
mom and dad who have no idea what her job is, and believe that
she is stilll somewhere in Thailand working in an office or shop
for extra money.
She never asks for much, as her pimp probably takes most and
gives her the balance so I feel a little sorry for her and reward
her at the end of the night. One thing you mention is that they
like you to shower prior to sex to search your room, well I beg
to differ as she usually asks me to shower with her, but when
she has showered she is so shy of her body and keeps it
covered with a towell until I remove it for her as we either lie or
sit on the bed together.
To me sex is not everything and friendship is vitally important
whether be her a whore or just an office worker looking for a
good night. What ever she is sometimes the fault is not hers
where she ended up in her lifetime, but one thing to me is
vitally clear these girls although they are professional hookers
they follow all lines of cleanliness so ocassional maybe they
deserve another chance in life within a totally new dimension
mapping out a complete change of life and opportunities.
She very rarely walks around buck naked so perhaps I may have
one of the genuine ones, who perhaps could change her style
and live as a normal house wife!
She is not looking for marriage, as I am presently tied and I hired
her believing that I would be getting a massage, but she had
other ideas. Because of my business committments it means
that I have been here for months on my own, and to be honest
I am only human but tell me whats your thoughts about me
paying for her services for 7 days 24 hrs and living with me
as a friend in the hotel. In my eyes sometimes this is the only
way you get to the truth as a few hours per night is not enough
to get to know someone inside out?
Tell me something she is not ashamed of who she is but it
worries her that she has to lie to her parents who believe that
she is still working in an office, as she has done for the past
seven years. I asked her why did she change direction of
profession and said blatantly that the guy who she had been
working for the past two years tried to rape her, and this was why
she decided to take up a new profession out of Thailand.
She followed one of her friends to Malaysia and arrived one month ago
as they are only given one month at a time in the first year and
was allowed home for christmas and new year and I met her a few days
ago. This is only her second time here as she showed me her border
crossing stamps in her permitt and she tells me prior to this that she
had never thought about selling her body for sex but she still has tatoos
so who do you believe, as she said that one tatoo was her choice, where
as the other represents the village where whe comes from!
I have no reason to disbelieve her and I welcome her friendship and honesty
and she always makes the bed, pours me a glass of water or boils a kettle for a cup of coffee, wipes my shoes over, folds all my clothes up and phones me from her mobile and keeps everything clean as well me.
She is 27 years with tatoos but no piercings and a gentle person who tries to understand me when I talk to her, as her english if I speak it slowly is comprehendable and its obvious she knows more than she lets on because she answers me precisely the answer what I am looking for.
On her phone is a picture of her five year son happily playing with her sisters kids, and its obvious that she does to want to proceed with the life she is faced with and would love the chance to be with him permanently.
She asks me would I ever go and stay in Thailand and I told her that my company
will be based in Malaysia or Singapore, but I may go and visit but it has no
special attractions apart from sexual pleasures that would draw me there, as we have tried to do business previously with Tai companies and we found that they
are not trustworthy people. Eventually though my contract will come to an end
and I will have to return to the UK and then if she is still around I will then have
to make a major decision.
I have not mentioned to her that I have money, or that I am a senior VP within an american company and that I will probably be buying my own business over here, as I want to see the type of person that I believe she is and you never know maybe she might become one of my senior managers who could run the operation over here while I am away if I train her right?
Regards
Wow, some seriously misleading information. I work in a large international company where 80% of our employees are highly-educated Thai women (Chula, Thammasat)and from very good hi-so families. Some of them have tattoos, some are not virgins, and a lot of them wear eyeshadow and eyeliner and they ALL speak excellent English. These girls are all highly professional executives making more than 80,000 to 100,000 baht a month – and most have never been to a bar, let alone are bar girls and I’ll guarantee you NONE of them KNOW any bar girls either.
Maybe you should start hanging around people who aren’t bar girls. Many Thai girls in Bangkok now are quite modern and don’t fall into the categories you’re talking about at all.
Hi BritinBangkok!
I know that stereotypes can often be misleading and certainly hope that no one thinks what I have written applies to ALL Thai girls. And please take note of the following paragraphs that preface the rest of the article:
“…by no means are these 100% spot on, just like everywhere in the world there are exceptions to rules, but they are good indicators, especially if your Thai girlfriend meets more than 2.
Keep in mind too that for many of the younger Thai urban girls these rules do not necessarily apply. Things are a bit different in Bangkok than they are out in rural Thailand or even in other Thai cities. The younger generation of Thai’s are moving away from traditional Thai values rapidly. What was true 5 or 10 years ago doesn’t necessarily apply any longer, especially when considering the university educated middle class or hi-so Thai’s.
Take these warnings as what they are, just warnings to keep your eyes open. Your Thai girl may be a good girl or she may be a bad girl, it’s often hard to tell these days as the lines have become a bit blurred.”
I think that disclaimer pretty much covers the hi-so and highly educated Thai women who ARE much more progressive and Western oriented. Honestly though it would be nice if I didn’t even have to write such a piece, but then Bangkok wouldn’t be the same city.
WHAT A LOT OF BULL ? GOOD GIRL/BAD GIIRL THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE SAME, YOU THE FARANG MARRIED TO EITHER ONE IS OBLIGED TO LOOK AFTER THE WHOLE EXTENED FAMILY INCLUDEING THE USUAL NO HOPEING LAZY BROTHERS AND COUSINS AND THEIR MATES DRINKING HABITS AND THEIR MIA NOIS A ND GIRL FREINDS, A BAR GIRL PROBALY IS A BETTER DEAL BECAUSE SHE WILL BE MORE EXPERINCED IN SEX AND HAVE OTHER GUYS BESIDE YOU TO FINANCE HER NEEDS, WHERE THE ( GOOD) GIRL WILL HAVE ONLY YOU TO SQUEZE MONEY FROM TTHE NEVER ENDING AND INCREASING DEMANDS FROM THE NO HOPER ELEMNTS OF HER FAMILIE. BEAT ADVISE IS DON,T MARRY DON,T GET INVOVED JUST HAVE SHORT TIME GIRLS AND PAY FOR THE SERICE BECAUSE IN THE LONG RUN THE FUCK YOU PAY FOR WILL BE THE CHEAPEST
ohhh so much shit, good thai girl, bad thai girl, the bottom line is they will ALL cost you money, and the god girl probably more so,, why ? all thai girls have lots and lots of poor familie and extended familie that you the (rich ) farang is expected to support, the bar girl thai will at least have 2 advantagess for the dumb farang who marry,s her, (1) bar girl will be better for sex, less inhibited and lots of exoerince, (2) bar girl will other farangs boy freinds behind your back sending her money, so not so much preasure on you to coff up the lot on your own. Philippnos is the same story
Well tickle me pink, from what I’ve read here I must have hit the jackpot! I met a gorgeous Thai girl in Brisbane, Australia in 1999, whom I spent 7 years with after which we split up because I didn’t agree to marry her through my own selfish reasons. Anyway, in that time I was treated like a king! She cooked, cleaned, cut my hair, gave me facials, manecures, massages, and even renovated a house for me!!! She even helped take care of my dad when he was sick! She also paid her own way and didn’t ask for handouts! When we finally split she did not take me to the cleaners like most women would perhaps do! She learnt fluent English in less than 12 months through a TAFE course, and was never a bar girl (to my knowledge). She grew up in a protective close Thai family that started with nothing but managed to put 4 of 5 children through university education. When I visited Thailand the family never asked me for money and even lent me their SUV so that I had wheels when I visited the beautiful Koh Chang. But I guess I was LUCKY
this is an experience of my friends. he meet a thai girl but you cant tell she is a bit in night life because she pretend good. live in rural with poor family but with cars. she dont wear make up when my friend is with her she really a good pretender because my friend will stay only 2 weeks with her. yes she always have problem mostly thai girls they ask money always about hospitalization, food or whatever but mostly they are sick, family is sick so white men felt conscience and will send money but i found out she always in disco and dont care about the money that her boyfreind is sending and i found out that she even have other boyfriends.
so please those foreigners who are in thailand for happenings just always with limitations. always keep your eyes open and keep your wallet always with you. they will rob you when you are sleeping. they have no more respect to their body almost everydoby can fuck them
They are very submissive girls and you feel they really love you. but they are devil. they will do all as long as they get money after that no more but try not to give money just enough to what they serve you then they will not care and show more and maybe dont show up anymore.
good pretendet and social climber these girls. almost you cant tell how to tell good and bad. they are like dramatic actresses. so be careful guys that dont know thai styles…….
You never know if your wife was working in sex business at the past.
If you take a look in europe you find so much girls working at night clubs, bordels, fkk-clubs, call agencies, porno-movie business etc.
Here in germany we have around 400.000 girls – prostitutes / having sex for money (take a look at wikipedia).
Maybe you will meet ones in your life a nice girl at disco/restaurant speak with her, meet her 2 days later again go to bed and 1 year later you will marry her and you know nothing about her past.
The problem is that we always think thai ladies are prostitues but who cares ?
You are looking for a girl – taking good care (cooking, eating, you childs etc – have some sex) what she have done is not so important for me – it´s more important he is not cheating me in the future and trying to steal only my money.
Hope you understand more or less what i mean
Regards from Germany
Hi Christian,
I understand you completely and honestly, there is no way to know about the past of NAY woman you date so why worry about it. You can only know about your partner from her actions towards you and how she treats you. If you find a lady that is caring, loving and generous who cares what was in her past. Sometimes it is better not to know something that really makes no difference and can only hurt you.
It’s a shame that so many have such a bad picture of Thai ladies in their minds…prostitutes, gold diggers, etc. The truth is that the majority of Thai women are honest, caring and loving and will do anything for their families. Definitely a good catch for any man and well worth the effort of establishing a relationship even with the language and cultural barriers (which I have found aren’t really that huge anyway).
hi Brit in bangkok..thanks for your kind opinion with the women..i dont understand with many guy here had to talk about…may be only bad experience with thai women as he met and then he think about that thai women are the same!!! hu!!!!
Most of you are just sick…….
Actaully my english is not good.
But I need to share my vision…something
I’m Thai girl and I proud to be Thai.
I live in Phuket. Designer is my occupation.
I think most of Farang know this place.
The Land is full pay to play like you said.
I drunk sometime..smoke sometimes
and I have many tattoo on my back same yakuza in Japan, so what ?
That’s mean maybe I’m bad right ?
I used to kiss hold his hand and touch my bf (sure he is Farang)
But I’m not bar girl and I finish graduate about art and design from university.
You’re making Image of Thai girl be bad.
You know what ?
I’m so poor many foreigner used to met bad bar girl.
but don’t forget ! they chose to went that place by themself.
Who beg them go ? even if they know that place full of bad bar girl.
In Thailand have many many good place why they not chose to go ?
And when they met bad experience with bar girl then tell everyone “Ohhh Thai girls not good”
It’s unfair I think.
“Don’t judge the book by it’s cover” Do you ever heard it ?
I used to met someone so bad attitude.
He(Australian) is my sister’s boyfriend (my sister is not bar girl too)
Oneday he came to my room.
knocked the door so so lound and ask where is my sister ?
I said I didn’t knew maybe she go to work. He not believe me and said
” YOU LIE ,YOU ARE THAI GIRL YOU LIAR”
And give out so many bad word.
I just said
“how shoud I do ? so I must to have blue eyes white skin and blond hair same you right ?
And the person that has blue eyes white skin and blond hair like you never lie ?
We are human too. Please don’t judge me cos I’m Thai.
Actaully I respect every kind of human and respect every religion too.
But I not respect who not respect me as well.
Life stlye can not tell an innate.
Many girl (materialism) act like a good gir and study in famous university can sell herself for money too.
And like to be second wife. I saw many bad girl in Hi-Society in Thailand probably bad than bar girl.
Just open your eyes open your mind.
Everyone not be the same.
Walk out from your small world.
We only human too.
THAI GIRLS ARE SLUTS!
And they need to be taught to respect themselves and respect others.
How can a mother leave her child regardless of the situation she is in. Only love can raise a child and not money.
My mother has been through abuse from her husband, escaped a war (with her children), poverty and working in a factory full of racist people. And your telling me their life is hard because they chose to have a child at a young age and they are choosing to have a life on the streets as bar girls. My mum was forced to have a poor life because of a war but never left my sister and I, she stayed respectful to herself and her raging alcoholic husband. The only mistake that she made was to stay with my dad, but he never hurt my sister and me so to her it didnt matter what he did to her.
These Thai girls are lazy and are taking an easy way out of tricking males because they have no hope and no ambition to go out there and get a real job. How easy is it to pile on make up and put on a tight pair of jeans and a skimpy top and flirt and spread your legs open once your approached by a male.
I love sex, what an easy life that would be, no more using my brain!…
But what a sad life and how unfulfilling. Imagine the depression these girls will go through when they are older and the foreign men that come to Thailand dont look at them anymore because these fresh meat. What are these girls going to be doing then????
…..Looking after their daughters children so that their daughters can be out there and playing the game!
How can anyone be fulfilled by girls like this??
The only question I have for you is…. imagine if your mother was like this and she left you so she can go and have sex with foreign man. (Thai’s no need to answer we already know it is accepted within your culture, your already living it).
For every negative,there is a positve,I have known many Thai bar girls,some have been money grabing ,shallow,and not very nice to know,there again I’ve had the same experiances with western woman,you probably have too.When you find “a good one”and they are out there,she will be all you want.Just a few words of advise,If your in your sixties or older dont go around with an 18 year old,it looks silly,and she just wants your money,Take your time,you need to talk to the girls,dont be boring,dont tell them what you earn,how much your pension is,how much your worth ect..Dont throw your money about,this is bound to attract the wrong types,and is potentaly dangerious,Dont send a girl you only know because you’ve had sex with her money,ask yourself ,”would you do that back home”.Thai woman are very nice in general,but dont be stupid,I have known some bar girls to earn through men sending them money in excess of $60,000 a year,so forget the poor little girl syndrome,your just being a prat,You dont have to be nasty about it,just be sensable,I have known bar girls to be funny,generious, and caring,Just enjoy your holiday,
Lady…K
Thank you for your words here and I wish that more people would read them and understand that you cannot judge an entire people based on the behavior of a small few. Yes, you will find bad people everywhere in the world and if you go to places where there is trouble to be had you most likely will find trouble, this is true in any place throughout the world. But if you do “Walk out from your small world” as you say you will find that the majority of Thai’s are honest, hardworking and so friendly. More people should know about this part of Thailand, but since it’s not sensational or exciting very few write about it or report it online.
Elle
As I said above, you cannot judge an entire people by the actions of a few. I’m sure that in any country of the world you will find some girls who take the easy way out as you call it, but in some cases I think these girls feel that they have no alternative. That doesn’t mean that they don’t have alternatives, it is just their perception. Please don’t judge everyone by your own perspective because not everyone has the same skills and abilities as you. Please realize too that other cultures view sex differently than your own. True that some girls may be the way you state, but I think that it is a very small minority and that the vast majority of Thai girls are by no means sluts.
Nick
I’ve also met the “bad girls”, not just in Thailand, but throughout the world. Greed, laziness and shallow thoughts are by no means a monopoly to any one culture. Your words and advice though are spot on. Simply use some common sense and don’t behave differently than you would in your home country and it’s very likely that you’ll be able to spare yourself some grief.
6 years ago I married a half Thai half Cambodian nurse from a poor family, the first year was tough as her family had taught her so much rubbish about farrangs and how she should behave. It took time and great care for her to learn, mostly by example, what life was about and who really cared for her rather than her money.
The best thing I did was took a job in Dubai and brought her over, she now has an excellent perspective and a much better understanding of people, life and what is important.
I used to think that I was the luckiest farrang to find a girl like her, now I know it, we have a beautiful three year old daughter now and are saving hard to move back to the land of smiles and buy a new house.
Thai’s are some of the most beautiful people on the planet, in both heart, spirit, looks and creativity, take your time and give your heart and you will find it like I did.
I currently has a thai girlfriend who works as a Kayoti in Singapore thai pub. She has been working for 1 year, came to SG 5 times with alternate month stay between SG and Korak. To my knowledge, she is a mother of 6 yr old child with a thai man who she left after she found out he cheat on her. The child is under grandmother’s (father’s side) care now. She said worked as Kayoti to pay for land (paid), and to build house for her parents who are farmers.
Up till date I have known her barely for 2 months only. She says she loves me because I can take care of her. We have been together for a month in SG till date but seldom have chance to be alone together. Most of her time she spent sleeping in the day and afternoon, evening goes out dinner with customer, 10pm to thai pub to ‘serve’ customer- requesting for tequila.
I have been there for 3 weeks now and is exhausting and heart breaking. I see her flirt with customer and customer basically all hands over her. I am filled with jealously watching. When she is free, her handphone which is her world rings and she answers with ‘teeruk’. All her messages are ‘I love u’, ‘I miss u’. Yet she do not let me see her handphone and she will get very protective over it. She has no time for me, when she is not out, she sleeps long long hours. When we speak, she is distracted by handphone calls.
We quarrels so often like daily over 2 things mainly :- her job as Kayoti and her commitment to our relationship. She often ask when will I marry her.
I forbidden her from going out dine before work and send her home after work by customer for fear of her trading her body for money. I had digged out her past from her bit by bit until she confessed she does that before she knew me for money to repay her parents land lease debt.
My questions:-
1. What more shall I find out about her and how before I commit my life to marriage with her ? Her mum asked for SGD$10K as downary and custom thai wedding.
2. What is your advise on precautions ?
I am suprised your considering marriage at such an early stage, take your time and look for someone who loves you for who you are rather than what you can do for them.
Wow, it is amazing to listen to the mugs moan about Thai women as though they have been made a complete mug of so that means they are all the same. It just appears to me like full on racism. If you think you are being mad a mug then why not stop pulling bargirls and try to pull a genuine local girl, and stop moaning that your latest Thai girl is ripping you off, Idiots deserve what you get
Jesus Jooe wake up and smell the coffee
so i liked lady k comment its so true
i going thailand long time -
all the girls there are human and you have to
treat them like that
nobody is make u pay them from a difrent cuntry
its ur choise .
i would not say no if girls send me money.
i know a girl in thailand that works
in bkk not bar i would send her money
in a sec. if she need
and she not my girlfriend we r togther when im there.
My god you are one sided about thai girls who work in bars, I have lived in Thailand for many years now and know many bar girls as you call them, Yes you do point out how to spot a bar girl but you do not explain why these girls are bad girls…..?
I know there are many girls who take advantage of the stupid Farang who think they can save a bar girl from this poor existence of a life but believe me that most of these girls dont have much choice and if forien men want to send them money then they will happily take it to help there family who normally live in the middle of nowhere in i half built house looking after there children and cant even pay for a visit to the doctor.
They may not have much education but they are not stupid, they dont demand money but they will try and push there luck. Why not? dont ask, dont get!!!
But if they met a man who loved them and had a good heart and who cared for them and they could get away from this life then they would like to forget it ever happened and live a happy life like any other girl in the world.
They are not all bad and it is the forien men who go there flashing the cash that has made the bar girl a viable option for alot of thai women.
So yes there are bad bar girls but there are also some little diamonds that i have met and are good friends of mine and believe me if they had the choice then they would never be working in a bar, they also do have the same values as other older thai values but they are more educated on other cultures and this is therfore acceptable for them to show affection in public….It is known as change….what do you expect that we can invade there country with tourism but expect them to be what you see in the brochure forever….shall they always be working in the paddy fields for you to go and take a picture?
So the short and sweet is treat them with the same respect as any other girl they are not bad because they work in a bar.
Other normal girls in other Eurpoeon countries will take your money also but they do it differently with shopping trips and fine dinning and weekends away etc etc etc and after that you get the same services but its just package it differently….
You cannot paint every bar girl with the same brush!!!
Ohhhh joe! i think if you read your own e mail you will get your answer.!
yes, a lot of what i have read here is very true. almost the exact situations have happened to me.
i have been to thailand many times, done all the things i have been reading that others have done, but, i am still learning.
mainly from what i have seen on this site.
yes, even the good girls want money, the ones that have normal jobs, not bar girls. all the girls i have been with are normal working thai girls, normal jobs,factory, office etc…. but they still ask for money.
not a lot of money, but some.
i think one thing i will change in future, is not to be too generous. that advice is true i think, if they call me “stingy man’ well ,too bad, find another.
because even though i like the girls i am with, i can say honestly i do not love them. they are fun to be with, and sex of course.
i did ,and still do love one, but because i was too slow to marry her, she married another guy.
she was a good girl. an english teacher, a genuine true lady. many times when we went out, she actually paid, she insisted.
so, if you do meet one like that, marry her, but you must be lucky to find one.
other than that, if they use you, then you use them in return…
it is good reading these stories , because it helps to be one step ahead of them.
but , the thai women has something that attracts us farangs. i dont think i will ever know what it is. i dont even consider a western women, maybe another asian, chinese .
one thing i have noticed. the thai muslim woman is much more honourable and honest. i have know 2. and they are more , well, straight forward and easier to deal with…but very clingy.
anyway, i thought i knew it all, but i have learnt more. i will be wiser next trip.
thanks to you all.
It seem to unfair with this articles,i have read it and the whole story was about bad thai bar girl VS good girl (educated & rich family) as we known over 60% thailand poor population they got no chance to continued study or caught on early marry and false if the foreiner so concern about that better for them to looking at thai girl in the countryside of thailand not in tourist city,how about that! and if was her past bar worker but now she success with the business so that also have to punish too,I got friend worked in the bar and own a bar & restaurant in this sittiution she will be in bar girl and look down at her?But why not right?she doesn’t have doctor degree so,i will look down at them anyway.
Hi Supat,
Thanks for taking the time to comment. As I said the warnings I have written are just that – warnings. I am not saying that all bar girls fall into this category and as far as I’m concerned you are right that foreigners shouldn’t be looking for their relationships in bars in the tourist areas of Thailand. Unfortunately the reality is that many foreigners that come to Thailand never get out of the tourist areas.
I am also not saying that you should look down on these girls, they are often only doing what they need to do to make a living and support themselves. Many good people fall upon bad times where they have to make the best of their circumstances. And hopefully these good people are one day able to pull themselves up, often through their own hard work and discipline, and live a better life.
Personally I have met some girls who work in the bars in Thailand who were very nice, kind and giving. In most cases it was simply fate that put them where they are now. Like you said a case of too poor and uneducated and no chance to do better because of circumstance. I did not (and do not) look down on them because of this, but simply accept them as they are.
I am sorry if you’re offended by the article, but it serves a purpose as a cautionary tale to those who choose to become involved in the bar scene in Bangkok, Phuket, Pattaya, etc. Think like this: If you swim in the ocean you might never come across the poisonous jellyfish or shark, but they are out there and you should at least be informed about their habits :;
i hope we have not forgotten how lucky we all are ,to of met these cultaral differences ye i got turned same as every person i know that thought they would nt i saw loads and loads of things living in and with thai people ? its self explanatory number 1 money talks number2 money talks and 3 it does or was you expecting some beautiful south east asian sex goddess to fall into immediate love with you for absolutely nothing but your good looks errm arrr ?peter crouch is better looking than you …ok i feel if you are farang and you are strong ! and you realise its performance related you then begin to shag more for less .sorry if its basic but at least ya know where you stand cos fuck getting nagged to death by some fat bird from outside the fish and shop chip in hull cos you didnt do what you was supposed to ! anyway learn thai it helps
Well, well well, you should never judge people by their culture and sex; there has been much judgment here. In all nations, societies and cultures there will be bad and good. One should look for today, the future and good, taking on board comments of people if they feel they have that need. Most of the world, we have freedom of speech…it’s down to individuals to make their own choice. Do not criticize others based on your values, observe learn and rejoice that you can. If you are wise, participate with the culture in the country that you visit. So people who have offered opinions, not guidance you are all hypocrites; get a life, enjoy and if your uncomfortable move on. Just be lucky that you had the opportunity to enjoy the engagement. For any one who has been offended, I do apologize, for those who have written offending words on this…they…if YOU are the bigger losers in life as most of you have had an education and still cannot see, accept reality. From an educated person I share that you respect yourself, do what you need, reflect on what you have done and look to the future….this is what most Thai people do, understand, accept, it makes you a better person…JD
I know most of Bars buisness own by foriegners ,the guy from Europe ,US
they use thais lady to run thier business.Is it right? I am a thai woman,I am proud of my nation.I read all of your comments I feel sad.I learn English when I was young ,I can speak and write some.I dont judge who good who bad.
Thanks for the heartfelt comment. Yes, I think it’s true that many of the bar owners are foreigners and the staff is then managed by a Thai lady. I read an interesting post about it yesterday at The Frog Blog, you might be interested in reading it as well.
Excellent reply and hopefully some will take it to heart. It’s just a fact that many humans are judgmental by nature and it seems to be impossible for them to put aside their own preconceived notions and prejudices and accept others as they are. I believe life become more enjoyable once you can accept and allow others to live their own lives according to their own beliefs.
Hello everyone,
I’ve just finished my 1 month holyday in Phuket with a Thai lady, and I have many question.
If some guy with big knoledge about thai ladies can help me get some answers I’ll be most thankful.
My e-mail is tomer_gaon@walla.co.il and I really need to get answers I have so many questions….